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Anti-racist practice in the Early Years

Liz Pemberton, cultural competence, and the four E’s of anti-racist practice
Your hosts
Julia Rose and Matt Arnerich
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May 14, 2025
Episode length:
101
min.

In this episode, you’ll...

  • Hear Liz' Early Years ick
  • Listen to Liz' recommendations for books for your setting
  • Discover how social media offers us new way to learn
  • Be inspired to learn more about the four 'E's of anti-racist practice
  • Find out about how Liz reflects on becoming a parent

This week’s guest

Liz Pemberton
Liz Pemberton
Early Years Consultant, The Black Nursery Manager.

Liz, is an Early Years consultant under the title The Black Nursery Manager. She writes articles, leads webinars, and was a part of Famly's inaugural children’s champion judging panel. Liz has an MA in early childhood and is a qualified secondary school teacher. She ran a setting for many years herself, before launching the Black Nursery Manager consultancy in 2020. She has been nominated as a Nursery World Trainer of the year, nominated as a future leader in 2022 by the Black Cultural Archives, and was recognised by the Serendpity Institute as 1 of a 100 Black women who have made a mark in 2024.

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Why anti-racist practice in the early years?

Liz emphasises the need to acknowledge and discuss race, ethnicity, and culture in early childhood education. Conversations about race, culture, and ethnicity should be at the forefront of early years education, serving as a golden thread that runs through the sector. Liz explains that centring these conversations and including diverse voices in early years frameworks can lead to richer, more inclusive educational experiences.

‍Anti-racist practice and social media

Liz discusses the importance of using social media platforms like Instagram to reach Early Years educators, as many access content during their free time. She explains how the "Black Square Summer of 2020" and global conversations about race created an opportunity for her to share content specifically addressing anti-racism in UK Early Years contexts. Liz acknowledges the challenges of social media, including the accessibility of information and potential for misinformation, while emphasising its value in reaching practitioners and bridging the gap between academic research and practical application.

The Four E's of Anti-Racist Practice

Liz introduces her "Four E's of Anti-Racist Practice" framework:

  • Embrace
  • Embed
  • Ensure
  • Extend

The Four 'E's provide a structured approach to implementing anti-racist practices in Early Years settings. She explains that the framework was inspired by a conversation with early years consultant Kim Scott and aims to help educators remember key aspects of anti-racist practice. You can find out more about The Four 'E's though Liz' work here.

Diverse perspectives in the Early years

Liz discusses the importance of acknowledging that certain voices, particularly white European perspectives, have traditionally been centred in early childhood education. Liz explains that we need to question why only certain theories and thinkers are considered, and to incorporate global voices and perspectives in pedagogy and child development. Liz emphasises the importance of adapting to new generations and technologies, noting that traditional theorists like Montessori and Piaget didn't account for modern developments like smartphones and social media.

Liz' book recommendations

Liz emphasizes the importance of diverse children's books that represent a wide range of experiences, cultures, and identities in early years settings. She recommends

"Strong Like Me" by Kalechi Okafor and "Homeland My Father Dreams of Palestine" by Hannah Mushabek, which center on experiences of dark-skinned Black girls and themes of home, belonging, and cultural history. Liz stresses the need for children's literature to reflect the diverse realities of children in 2025 and promote understanding of oneself and others in the world.

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